The Brown Derby

The one on Wilshire near the Ambassador Hotel

At one point, there were several of them in Los Angeles but only one (the one on Wilshire opposite the Ambassador Hotel) was constructed so that when you walked in the front door, it looked like you were walking into a giant hat.

That was the original Brown Derby, which opened on Valentine’s Day of either 1926 or 1929 (accounts differ) and moved one block away in 1937.  The other main locations were (1) near Hollywood and Vine, (2) near Wilshire and Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, and (3) at Los Feliz Boulevard and Hillhurst in the Los Feliz area.  There were also a few short-lived ones in other spots.  All served mostly American fare in a semi-plush manner with very attentive service.

Apart from the gimmick of the name and pretty good food, they had two things going for them.  One was the Cobb Salad, which was invented at the Brown Derby, which was owned by the Cobb family.  As the delicacy caught on in other eateries, there was much publicity as to where it had begun, and many people wanted to go and try the original.  Many people also wanted to dine where the stars ate, and that was an even better reason to dine at the Derby.  Like many restaurants where the big attraction is celebrity clientele, the proprietors advertised their famous patrons by covering the walls with their caricatures.

The one near Hollywood and Vine

The Brown Derby near Hollywood and Vine was situated in area from which many network radio shows were broadcast, so stars were always eating there.  It was not uncommon for the cast of a program to do a performance for the East Coast, then repair to The Derby for food and libation before returning to the studio for the West Coast transmission.  This caused the Brown Derby to be mentioned often on their shows.  When TV shows began to emanate from some of the same studios in the fifties, there were occasional live remotes from that Brown Derby.  The Ralph Edwards show, This is Your Life, always began by surprising some celebrity, often in a location very close to the studio from which the program was telecast.  During the years that This is Your Life came from the Pantages Theater on Hollywood Boulevard, they often used the Derby, which was right around the corner.  The night Edwards surprised Harold Lloyd there, Groucho Marx was in the next booth (on a break from filming You Bet Your Life at NBC’s nearby Sunset and Vine studio) and Marx began heckling Edwards as the latter attempted to hustle Mr. Lloyd across Vine Street.  Well, who wouldn’t want to eat in a place where that kind of thing happened?

The Sunset-Vine Brown Derby also had a lovely banquet room and courtyard so it was the scene of many wrap parties and show biz press gatherings.  All that “in” spot mystique spilled over to the Beverly Hills location and gave it a similar rep.  On I Love Lucy, when Lucy, Fred and Ethel arrived in Hollywood and wanted to go somewhere to see the stars, they went to the Brown Derby…where Lucy caused a plate of food to be dumped on the head of Brown Derby regular William Holden.  That was probably good for another five years of tourists flocking to the place.

The one on Wilshire in Beverly Hills

Eventually though, business declined and Brown Derbies began closing down.  I was an occasional patron of the Hollywood/Vine one in its last years, largely because I was working on a TV show that taped at the Sunset-Gower Studio a few blocks away.  I recall being impressed with the history but unimpressed with the food…and somewhat bothered by the obsequious service.  The host and waiters fawned over everyone who walked in the door like they were royalty and it seemed awfully antiquated and phony, at least to me.  In any case, it was no longer the kind of place where Groucho and Bill Holden might drop by for a bite, so its main attraction was gone.

That Derby closed in ’85, the same year the Los Feliz branch turned into a night club.  In the last few decades, much effort has gone into preserving the giant hat from the Wilshire location as a historical landmark.  The only remaining Brown Derby is located at the Disney-MGM Studio theme park in Florida.  I don’t know why they don’t buy the big hat and just ship it on down there.

8 Responses to The Brown Derby

  • Will Hamblet says:

    Over a decade ago I visited the Brown Derby in Florida. I innocently asked the waitress if they had grapefruit cake. She looked at me in surprise & said, “Of course we do.” Tasted pretty much like the one I remembered years ago in Hollywood.

  • Jesse Silver says:

    When I was ten, I was chosen to appear on Art Linkletter’s House Party. One of the day’s treats was lunch at the Brown Derby. I remember a cart on rollers that served as a traveling milkshake and dessert station, and something called a Luscious Lulu Burger. Pretty heady stuff!

  • Steve says:

    There used to be a coffee shop sized Brown Derby on Vine St. just south of Sunset…it was right next to my favorite 1940′s throwback bar, the Firefly.

  • I used to love the Brown Derby Cobb Salad—there was nothing like. Today a lot of restaurants claim they have the original recipe, but, if they do, they don’t use it. The only place in town that makes it like the original is Hillcrest Country Club—at least they did the last time I was there.

    During its first four years the original Little Hat Derby added only two items to its menu—Cobb Salad and Grapefruit Cake. Bob Cobb was growing weary of the steady hot-dog-hamburger diet. He found an avocado in the ”icebox;” chopped it up, along with some lettuce, celery and tomatoes, plus a strip of bacon and some salad dressing, and had that for his dinner. Several days later he tried it again, adding other ingredients—breast of turkey, chives, hard-boiled egg, watercress, and a wedge of Roquefort cheese for the dressing. Everything was finely chopped.

    So, you say you want to make it like the original—get ready to chop the following: 1/2 head of chilled iceberg lettuce, 1/2 bunch chilled watercress, 1 small bunch chilled chicory, 1/2 head chilled romaine, 2 medium-sized peeled tomatoes, 8 ounces breasts of roasted chicken or turkey (depending on what story you believe and the whims of the chef), 6 strips crisp bacon, 1 avocado, 3 hard-cooked eggs, 2 tbs. chopped chives, 1/2 cup fine grated imported Roquefort cheese, Plus, 1 cup Brown Derby Old-Fashioned French Dressing (see recipe below)

    Finely chop the lettuce, watercress, chicory and romaine, and arrange in a wooden salad bowl. Cut the tomatoes in half, remove seeds, dice finely and arrange in a strip across the salad. Dice the turkey meat and arrange over top of chopped greens. Chop the bacon finely and sprinkle over the salad. Cut the avocado into small pieces and arrange around the edge of the salad. Decorate the salad by sprinkling over the top the chopped eggs, chopped chives and grated cheese. Just before serving, mix the salad thoroughly with Original Cobb Dressing.
    Serves 4-6

    Brown Derby Old-Fashioned French Dressing
    .
    This is the French dressing which became so popular with the Stars. The cup of water is optional, depending upon the degree of oiliness or thickness desired in this dressing.
    1 cup water, 1 cup red wine vinegar, 1 tsp. sugar, Juice of 1/2 lemon, 2 1/2 tbs. salt, 1 tbs. ground black pepper, 1 tbs. Worcestershire Sauce, 1 tbs. English mustard, 1 clove garlic, chopped, 1 cup olive oil, 3 cups salad oil

    Blend together all the ingredients except oils. Add olive and salad oils and mix well again. Chill well and shake before serving.

    Some people couldn’t get enough of the Roquefort cheese. This was the roaring ‘20’s and many people had never tasted anything quite like this, so they either loved it or hated it. One day Gloria Swanson heard that someone didn’t want their blue-veined cheese. “What a waste,” she declared. Not wanting to waste anything, she had the waiter blend it into in her salad dressing before it was poured over her Cobb Salad. From that day on there were two choices of dressing—with and without.
    Makes 1-1/2 qts

  • Bob says:

    I used to be a regular at the Vine location. My boss liked to go there for lunch.

    The Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers used to meet there.

    When family came into town, we would eat there. We had dinner there on Thursday, and the waiters were friendly as I was a regular. The next night it was on the news that they were closing that night.

    No one said anything while we were there the night before.

  • Connie Klem says:

    I worked at the Vine Derby in 1953. I loved the Grapefruit cake. Can I obtain the recipe? I have a hard copy BD cookbook copyrighted 1949 but the cake isn’t in it. Please let me know. CK

  • Claudia Benfield says:

    I love the site. I have always wanted to see what old hollywood sites looked like.Wish other sites had this much info.

  • angelatc (@AngelaTC) says:

    I wonder what happened to the famous caricatures that lined the walls of the original location?

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